Speakers: Tamar Garb, Durning Lawrence Professor in the History of Art at UCL  //  Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela, South African National Research Chair in Violent Histories and Transgenerational Trauma at Stellenbosch University, and the 2020-2021 Walter Jackson Bate Fellow at the Harvard Radcliffe Institute
Executive producer: Paul Gilroy
Producer and Editor: Kaissa Karhu

This conversation was recorded on 6th November 2020